collaroy sea wall protest

However, the work then continued skyward with a seven metre vertical concrete wall on top of the foundations. They are multi millionaire asset owners. From their perspective building the wall before further erosion took place and moved closer to the road was another advantage as was disregarding the impact on the beach for a potentially more permanent solution. First completed by the French in 1735, the Pondicherry seawall reaches a height of 27 feet above sea level. They are trying to protect a life saving club, which footings lie directly on the sandunes that eroded due to not only the waves but also the changing in direction and position of the mouth of the river (natural process). They may have a wall, but there will be no beach in front of it. https://www.sydneycoastalcouncils.com.au/sites/default/files/JRCorkill_A(2)_Prop_L_Rev_67-84.pdf, yes, Blindboy, I am guessing they had absolutely no input on the final [or initial] design what-so-ever as they were only used as a consulting service by the Coastal engineers. Hows the Seawall holding up? My experience with compulsory acquisition had to do with a Sydney motorway a few years back. Hi Lost, yes there is another option - see my 2 posts above. Will it make Carties better or will kooks just ride into the wall even more. Its no wonder the climate brigade aren't on board telling us all there garbage but erosion been around a tad longer than the 80s. Seawalls have the inevitable effect of reflecting and concentrating wave energy and accelerating erosion. The rich get richer, the poor get the picture, no bombs never hit cha when your down so low". Hourly Multiple Swells Wind Highlighting Model Units ft, mph. https://www.swellnet.com/comment/772908#comment-772908. Ocean Pools > Skate Bowls > Wave Pools > "Boomer'z Backwash Booger Bowl", Crew requested the Turning Japanese Tool Box, History of Collaroy Erosion / Wave Pools / Tow Surfers. Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. The local community group has been protesting against a seawall for almost 30 years. It's folly to believe you can hold back the Pacific. Florida is an example. If a construction like that ends up being the only realistic option then so be it, but at least they need to be transparent about how they got to that point, and ideally accountable in future if it goes south. More to come once the other residents agree to pay their contribution. I think the re-sale value of their properties trumped their ability to access the from their back garden. Yet for some reason the Collaroy/Narra stretch seems to get flogged not only by mother nature but by poor coastal management approaches time and again. We need to get all the data and expert opinions out in the open before decisions are made. This wicked problem is a result of intergenerational dumbness. Thanks again for your time and effort to make these articles, as we all truly appreciate them. The theory is that the waves break further offshore, soaking up wave energy that would otherwise erode the leeshore dune system during storms. Their ultimate solution was a combination of 3 things- a rock boulder seawall buried in the dunes as a final line of defense in extreme erosion events to protect private properties behind (this seawall actually runs for the full extent of the Gold Coast nth beaches but is rarely seen as it is completely buried under dunes/vege), an offshore reef, also rock boulders, to attenuate wave energy under normal conditions thus widening the beach in its lee, and lastly- sand nourishment, adding more sand to the beach system. A band of knowledgable people have gotten together and are in discussions about it and coming up with arguments and alternatives against it. The lessons, it would seem, are still being learnt. The problem is one of vertical fiscal imbalance. My guess is that their engineers took a different view of how to best manage the situation. Google "End-wall effect erosion" and you'll find many papers/studies on this. [ask GaryG] Over the coming fortnight there's a couple more swell forecast from the east-northeast and that'll really put the structures to the test. Nobody there is in a position to offer 2-3 times market value. Apparently there was a buy back scheme that faltered in the early 1980's when the department of public works ran out of money. These are the taxpayer funded grants that LGAs will apply for, to repair the wall. This also creates problems when people try and keep claiming land as shorelines migrate seaward in times of accretion. Why would you bother acquiring the affected properties "at any cost", when they're likely to be washed into the sea? the whole sea level/erosion issue is here now ..hmm any idea's solutions you have come across? No-one wants to see visible structures built along the beachfront. As you know we have the Great Ocean Road down here , which was a huge Tourist attraction ( before Covid.) It would be fantastic to see an interview with someone from Many Hydrolics as they did all the Scientific modeling and have been very open in sharing their data. There is no evidence whatsoever of accelerated erosion seaward of these newly constructed works. Theyve introduced these gently sloped walls to broaden the widths of the roads to protect them from erosion. Thats tens of thousands of homes). They have just set a precedent for the whole east coast of poor me multi millionaire landowners to set up squeaky wheel collectives. Please enable it to continue. Donohoe has presided over the Northern Beaches branch of the Surfrider Foundation for over twenty years, and hes currently livid with the council. The Collaroy seawall was in part constructed after a significant storm event in 2016 eroded 50 metres along the Narrabeen and Collaroy shoreline, causing damage to waterside properties. Big walls like this one are getting smashed and although for the most part they are still there, everything behind them is going. Basically the awarding of contracts falls across a couple of ministries. On Saturday November 27th hundreds of locals came down to Collaroy Beach / North Narrabeen Beach in grim weather conditions to protest the monstrous 7 meter . This would reduce the lateral movement of sand along this stretch of beach, reducing the natural erosion while creating some great banks. >>How can you say there is no evidence unless you have the facts to prove it? Your browser has JavaScript disabled. I also presume the view of the houses will be enhanced by the no trespassing signs in large red writing. The market knows this. 314k members in the sydney community. a report a number of years ago by the Great Ocean Road Coastal Committee, GORCCshowed there were more than 47 areas that were of immediate concern where the ocean would cut the road. Fight the good fight mate. This process must require wind over thousands of years but people and waves stomping over dunes seems like any dune system near a popular town once destroyed wont come back? I doubt there will be a demand for the effected given the inevitable. I hope this Collaroy wall hasn't set a precedent. Maintenance starts 2 months (?) The role of the council in all this might come out if people push hard enough. Indeed. I get informed about a proposed bike lane two suburbs away, questions an aghast Donohoe, but I hear nothing about construction abutting a nearby public beach?, Gordon was equally puzzled: I guess people become frustrated with the bureaucratic process and find ways of not involving the public. I wouldnt have thought there would be much fetch? Angus Gordon, an engineer with fifty years experience in coastal engineering, assumed the same. I recently tested an Open-Source Wave modeling software called "Celeris" and the result are really good although I didn't go too in-depth with it. I find the whole thing fascinating, I had guys from the council to my face tell me of a future with 52 day heatwaves & in the same breath tell me of being concerened about extreme cyclones & erosion. The matter is currently under investigation by Environmental . They blend in quite nicely and have provided easier access to the breaks and so far been a success in the regions theyve put them so I fear theyll continue to put them in everywhere thinking they wont caus too much damage to beach profiles elsewhere. On the release of his latest edit, R-Cal chats to Swellnet about love and other acrobatics. Will try and find out. Wow, that is ugly even by brutalist/modernist standards. The works to protect private homes is being 80% funded by private owners, with Council and the NSW Government contributing 10% each. They also recently dug the mother of all holes in the sand and put huge foundations down ( well over a years work) for what I thought was further erosion work but turn out to be a access ramp for beach who cant step down onto the beach. Craig Brokensha on the Sunshine Coast there is a similar 'future' proposal for a rock wall between Alexandra Headlands and Maroochydore beaches. Section 2.4 Item 4 - classic stuff. With increased ocean levels comes all those properties around Botany Bay, Parramatta river, Georges river. The reef/sand nourishment are both mainly designed to widen and protect the public property, ie the beach, in front of the buried seawall. A quick trip Todos Santos way during a belting nor'west swell. The most notable benefit of sea walls is that they provide excellent protection against coastal erosion and flooding. Here are the bloke credentials Children protest the building of a seawall at Collaroy-Narrabeen in 2002. The council had an interest in preventing future erosion impacting Pittwater Rd, the main north-south artery on the NB. I guess that the levees will give me a 100% guarantee that it'll never happen in my lifetime". Those properties are the responsibility of the owners. What sort of idiots approved this shit? Market value is driven by what people are willing to pay for it. It is a difficult and wicked problem. Almost certainly the latter lilas, given the problems Sydney has had with apartment blocks I would think regulation is minimal to non-existent. Not off topic JS, wouldn't be surprised if there is a hyperlink to that video in the sea wall approval document!. To add a bit of controversy, I've often wondered: Is Carties borderline just a novelty wave? This is the only plausible outcome from the hard seawall construction and the engineers would have known this. Or boarding a jumbo jet to go for a surf and buy the latest board all things responsible for the needing of the wall in the first place. besides Id rather just shout at my computer. You may not realise that there have been large volumes . The beginnings of a huge $25 million concrete wall in Collaroy on Sydney's Northern Beaches. Collaroy resident Tony Cagorski lost more than 10 metres of his yard during the weekend's wild weather, undermining the foundations of his home. I'd be happy to help draft it offline. And more recently there was a local magazine piece discussing future sea level rises and the Noosa beach rock wall not being able to contain that, plus the homes along the Sunshine Beach to Peregian Beach stretch being at future risk, and councils would be needing to address that. I think we have already seen 19 cm of sea level rise on the east coast - and at least up here it hasnt translated to any significant/extended erosion issues. The only feasible way forward without wasting any more council and tax payers money to protect the properties in question is to acquire the properties at any cost and return them to a naturalised stated. 1. 30 years of volunteers doing Dunecare (eg. These seawalls are easy to design, and easy to construct. I do however feel there needs to be more separation regarding fact and opinion in your article. The whole buy back argument being too expensive is a crock of shit. Newiie Harbour was pumping. The above video might be of interest to help understand the design of the wall. exports the same quantity of energy in green electricity and hydrogen as it exports in thermal coal and liquefied natural gas. Really interesting [and sad] to see this story progress in real-time. Zen interested how Japan just keeps dropping those big Tetrapods anywhere there is coastal erosionlost a lot of surf spots..how effective do you think they actually are against erosion? There have been high profile storms on the NSW East Coast since the mid-70s. Council and State Government contribute 10% each. I tear up and swear to myself. the hardest decisions should be the easiest. Pipeline specialist injured while duckdiving in heavy waves. Lawsuit waiting to happen when a swimmer/surfer gets nailed by a rogue piece of concrete either down the 'Roy or up towards Northy. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/28/world/28israel6/28israel6-sup Sea-change hostage negotiations at Hellhole of the Pacific I have a blanket policy of not feeling sorry for people owning properties worth multiple millions of dollars, who have lived the better part of their lives walking from their beachfront home directly onto the sand. It may not happen in my lifetime [fingers-crosssed] but it's a real issue when thinking about your children who eventually inherit your home. There's no homes or businesses, or very few to speak of- doesn't come close to justifying the cost of the wall. "Sea walls do nothing to ensure the ongoing conservation of the beach in front of them," Mr Donohoe told crowds. Great article highlighting the competing interests of the natural environment and local councils (which are too easily manipulated by wealthy stakeholders). Its also been the focus point for opposition to coastal development; an abject lesson about what results from bad policy. Would be really good to see an article on the current state of affairs in the Coastal engineering world. My view is if it cannot be protected by environmentally sound methods then that is the owner's problem. So whats your thoughts about using tax payers $'s to buy back endangered properties from natural erosion and as I asked Zen.are there any solutions other than just moving people property back from the Coast? An "Engineer/s" designed this monstrosity and other "Engineers" approved it. Please enable it to continue. Lol. The Collaroy Beach coastline on May 6, 2016 before major storms swept the shoreline. Check this out. Seeing and continuing a precedent that the government should pay and protect small groups of private landholders while the property owner reap the benefit and profit of rocket fuel property prices. We have the tools and imagination to manage the climatic challenge that beginning to show in my lifetime. https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-nsw-sydney-collaroy-surfer-pul Sydney 'Living' Seawalls RAW footage from this week's extra-large swell at Peahi. For some it. Greed and stupidity rule in councils . Jeez. More than likely entombed in one of those tetrapod molds you mentioned above. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. You don't have to look around the world because the Gold Coast has implemented the only effective "non- ugly as fuck" option at Palm Beach Qld. Bullshit. 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